To those who argue that the political crisis in Perak now is a taste of Pakatan's own medicine (referring to the Sept 16 takeover plan), they have failed to see the key differences between the two.
If you remember what happened when Dato' Seri Anwar Ibrahim claimed to have the numbers to form the new federal government, he wrote to PM Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi requesting him to convene an emergency sitting of Parliament. This was rejected by the PM.
The next constitutional option is to press for the dissolution of Parliament to make way for fresh new elections. That was also not entertained. Anwar Ibrahim exhausted the constitutional means that were available to him. If Pakatan were to act unconstitutionally and lure defections, then we will be having a new government today. But we didn't and we will not act unconstitutionally. So you can't say that Najib's coup and Pakatan's plan were one and the same.
Hannah Yeoh did not read:
The letter from PR to Pak Lah June 16, 2008 News - Malaysiakini
source - Anwar: MCA MPs will defect to Pakatan
“I can safely say that several MCA MPs will join us soon,” he told journalists yesterday, after opening a service centre in Bayan Baru, Penang. “It’s about time that we take over. It’s only a matter of time for us to take over. We are so close to Putrajaya,” he said to roars from some 30,000 people.“It’s very soon. I will not say how (soon). But it will happen soon.”
APOMM : No MCA MPs left to join Anwar. Fairytale? Myths? Busted.
June 30, 2008 News - Malaysiakinisource - Anwar leaves Turkish embassy
Anwar claimed that component parties - of whom two were from Umno - four parliamentarians from the ruling Barisan Nasionalwill be defecting to the opposition Pakatan Rakyat this week. "This week, I was supposed to announce which constituency I was going to contest in and the four Barisan Nasional parliamentarians who are going to join us. As such, they've had to act now (referring to the Saiful allegations)." According to Anwar, because of the allegations, he has had to put off the announcements.
APOMM : No one left to join Anwar. Fairytale? Myths? Ask Hannah Yeoh.
September 18, 2008 News excerpts - Malaysiakinisource : PAS tahu senarai MP lompat
Senarai bilangan ahli Parlimen Barisan Nasional didakwa akan menyertai Pakatan Rakyat telah dikemukakan dalam mesyuarat jawatankuasa pusat PAS Ahad lalu.
Berdasarkan senarai tersebut, kebanyakan mereka adalah dari Sabah dan Sarawak itu yang beragama Islam, demikian menurut ahli jawatankuasa PAS, Ahmad Awang .
Dalam senarai itu juga, kata Ahmad, terdapat wakil rakyat dari MCA dan MIC yang akan menyertai Pakatan. “Sebab itu kita tengok MCA (contohnya) ada hentam penggunaan Akta Keselamatan Dalam Negeri (ISA). Itu bunga-bunganya (tanda-tanda hendak keluar daripada BN),” katanya.
APOMM: PAS saja tahu. Anwar saja tahu. Hannah Yeoh tahu? Kalau tahu, YB Hannah Yeoh sila hantar ke emel saya.
September 19, 2008 News - TheStarsource : Anwar wants to go to Parliament before Court case
Opposition Leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said the only way for Pakatan Rakyat to form the Federal Government was via an emergency session of Parliament to be convened by Tuesday for a no-confidence motion to be tabled against Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
He insisted yesterday that Pakatan Rakyat had the numbers to form a new government, adding that the names of the Barisan Nasional MPs who were ready to switch sides would be revealed in Parliament.
APOMM: Will a vote of no confidence against Pak Lah crown Anwar as the new PM, Hannah Yeoh? The last time I checked, since March 2008 till 15 Feb 2009, Barisan Nasional holds the majority in Parliament. According to the Constitution, the majority gets to form the Government of Malaysia.
September 16, 2008 News excerpts - NSTsource - Anwar: Public will know crossover list today
The list of Barisan Nasional members of parliament who would cross over to the Pakatan Rakyat will be announced today, PR de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said last night. Addressing more than 10,000 people gathered at the Kelana Jaya Stadium for the PR's Malaysia Day celebration, he claimed that the opposition coalition was poised to take over the Federal Government. "We have the numbers and we are ready. Tomorrow (today), we will announce it (the crossover list)," he said.
APOMM: Hannah, Anwar did not announce the crossover list and have not till today (check the "days passed" widget at my sidebar).
I think the Constitution did not say Anwar cannot announce the crossover lists. And by the way Hannah, please do not use the same excuse which others have been using - Takut Mati.
No one has ever died in any political struggles in Malaysia - Mahathir, Tunku Abdul Rahman, Tun Abdul Razak, Anwar Ibrahim.
Hannah Yeoh living in another world.
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(Credits to The Star, Malaysiakini and Dailylife for the photos)
20 comments:
YB HANNAH YEOH HAS CORRECT ANALYSIS. SHE IS GOOD YB WHO IS HEART N SOUL WITH COMMON PEOPLE. THANK YOU YB.
I do not deny that YB Hannah Yeoh is close to the people.
Never in my article I slammed Hannah for her attitude or service to the people.
Her analysis is shrouded with Anwar's words.
Anwar Ibrahim is unfit to be the PM of Malaysia.
YB's analysis makes no sense when the crossovers list has never been announced by Anwar.
Where is the list?
It is not in the Constitution that Anwar cannot announce the list.
Neither is it unlawful.
And no one has ever died in political struggles.
YB Hannah Yeoh is wrong this time.
You make a good BN man, come back after completing your studies I am sure they will reserve a place for you. BN takes care of some like you even in education.
Are you writing this blog to show that you are a BN man so that your studies will be financed by them?
I am not so cheap as to write a blog just to support BN and to get money to fund my studies.
My previous comment was misphrased about finances. And I apologize.
I meant to say I am applying a scholarship under the Federal Govt to fund my studies and praying hard that the leadership grants me one.
Whether or not they finance my studies, it doesnt matter.
I am heading straight for my Masters program, with or without any help from DAP, Anwar or BN.
This blog has been written since year 2006 not for BN or the Opposition.
I believe you can check my blog articles since year 2006 - 2009 and realise that I have openly slammed Barisan Nasional more frequent than I criticise the Opposition.
There is no need to come up with an accusation on me like that.
It is a little hurtful.
And I am not a BN man or a Opposition man.
Let me make it clear.
I am partyless.
Thank you for the comments. To be honest, there was someone who approached me to join DAP a few years ago.
Now there is an urge for me to join Barisan.
I leave the decision making for another time and keep my options "open".
I am surely returning home after my studies next year.
My undergraduate degree was obtained thanks to MCA and Barisan Nasional.
I agree BN takes care of people in education, welfare, and development.
And I will consider to serve under BN.
Thank you for the comments and do come back.
APOMM has never taken sides with BN or PR over the years. I speak what is in my mind.
This is the reason why A PIECE OF MY MIND was set up.
My studies btw, have been financed by the Federal Govt of Malaysia.
In other words, the taxpayers.
My family and I might not be rich, but we don't go on to become beggars and blog or write just to get BN's help.
This has never been the policy of APOMM or my family's.
I am terribly hurt by your accusation.
hmm... taking a time off from all de serious debates n arguments.....
Hannah Yeoh does LOOK QUITE GOOD for a State Assemblyman! haha... don't get me wrong by saying assemblymen are ugly looking...but its jz an honest compliment... lol. Not many lasses are willing to become politicians nowadays! Hats off to her....
On a serious note, I believe one shouldn't judge on another individual's personal life. That's stepping the line there, 'Anonymous'. One should maintain good ethics whilst bringing up his/her own points during a debate.
The following comments by an anonymous has to be clarified.
"Are you writing this blog to show that you are a BN man so that your studies will be financed by them?"
I was sponsored by the Federal Govt in 2004.
I started blogging in 2006. So, my studies have long been funded by the Government of Malaysia before I started blogging.
I am not a BN man or PR man. Check my blog articles since 2006. I have criticised BN more than I have slammed Pakatan.
My family and I might not be rich, but we don't go on to become beggars and blog or write just to get BN's help or PR's help.
We have approached PR or BN for help since many years ago for several issues.
I don't remember seeing myself kissing up the hands of those whom I approached.
Thank you and I hope this clears everything.
Wei Liang,
I do not understand your preoccupation with the list as a prerequisite for a no-confidence motion.
As far as I know a no-confidence motion can be filed as and when requested. Reference:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Vote-of-no-confidence
The constitution provides this as an avenue to overthrow a government. If the motion passes then the government (whether state or federal) is legally overthrown (much unlike how the Perak govt was overthrown).
The point of contention now is why didn't BN provide this avenue to the opposition at all when they requested for a no-confidence vote in parliament? The BN has violated the constitution by rejecting the motion although they are constitutionally bound to table it.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=no+confidence+motion+rejected+malaysia&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
Show me another country which has prevented no-confidence motions.
I think you have misinterpreted the meaning of a vote of no confidence in Malaysia.
A vote of no confidence was requested by Anwar Ibrahim against the Prime Minister of Malaysia.
Assuming all BN and PR MPs remove Pak Lah as the PM of Malaysia, the Government of Malaysia will not collapse.
The next Prime Minister of Malaysia will be nominated and passed in Parliament.
Which party will nominate this new Prime Minister?
It will be the party that holds the majority in the House, i.e. Barisan Nasional.
That is the Constitution of Malaysia.
Of course a new vote of no confidence can surface again and the Prime Minister from the majority party can be removed.
The Perak State Assembly can have a vote of no confidence against Zambry.
But will it pass?
31 ADUNs gave their full support to Zambry to run the Government.
I hope you can clarify yourself and understand the processes involved.
Thank you.
I am not too sure if the Parliament is constitutionally bounded to table no confidence motions.
That I do not know and I cannot comment on matters which I am not clear about.
I suggest you refer to a Constitutional lawyer.
However, I do know that motions to be tabled in Parliament must go through the Speaker of the House and the Speaker's chamber decides what gets to be discussed.
The wikipedia definitions are not sweeping statements or legal institutions.
Each country's Constitution is different.
Please refer to my explanation above on why a vote of no confidence on Pak Lah will not bring Barisan Nasional down and why Anwar was lying all along with his comical tricks like calling a vote of no confidence against the PM from BN.
This method will never crown Anwar or Pakatan Rakyat as the Government of Malaysia.
I am anonymous in post 9.
Just assume that I am Anwar, and assume that I have enough defectors.
Would I reveal them before a no-confidence motion in parliament? Of course not because they'd be subjected to threats, bribes and kidnaps (haven't we seen it all?) and I'll lose them all.
What I would do is to raise a no-confidence motion in Parliament, and have the defectors announce that they have joined my cause there and then. With the collective effort of PR and defectors we could remove the PM, and subsequently nominate me in as the new PM.
Referring on to your comment:
Assuming all BN and PR MPs remove Pak Lah as the PM of Malaysia, the Government of Malaysia will not collapse.
The next Prime Minister of Malaysia will be nominated and passed in Parliament.
Which party will nominate this new Prime Minister?
It will be the party that holds the majority in the House, i.e. Barisan Nasional.
It could very well be PR + defectors (or BN assemblymen voting across party lines) nominating Anwar as the new Prime Minister.
Ken
My friend, this country has never seen anyone died in political struggles.
Tunku Abdul Rahman, Mahathir, Tun Abdul Razak, Pak Lah, Tengku Razaleigh, Anwar Ibrahim, Fadzil Noor, Lim Kit Siang.
All of them did not die due to political struggles.
Bribes? Haha. All came up and said Najib bribed them but admitted that they do not have proof.
Tomorrow, I can also say Anwar bribed Yong Teck Lee, Lee Kah Choon, Tan Kee Kwong, and many more but I do not have proof.
Is that right to do?
If we believe all the stories that they claimed Najib offered them bribes, the total calculated (just during the Perak & Kedah issue) was expected to reach at least RM 160 million ringgit from Najib's pocket.
Nizar and Anwar claimed Nasaruddin was kidnapped. Was he? Nasaruddin said he wasn't.
You know, if he had said he was kidnapped indeed, I am sure the Ketuanan Rakyat will be able to protect him easily.
I think Arumugam and PR supporters also claimed he was kidnapped.
In the end, Kedah PKR came out to say "Arumugam is in a safe place with us".
I have the official article from Malaysiakini to back me up on this.
Who is kidnapping who? Is this a political conspiracy or what?
There was also a conspiracy announced by PKR that there were 4 assassins who entered to country to kill Anwar. (Anwar hid in the Turkish embassy immediately).
PKR said they received foreign intelligence reports on this matter. A foreign intelligence unit that reports to PKR? Suspicious.
And if they know who the 4 assassins are, why weren't there any police reports made?
As far as I know, Anwar was in Stadiums, open areas, in front of the embassies.
All these public areas exposed Anwar to high level risks if assassins were present to kill Anwar.
In the end, it was all just a drama.
Anwar can actually send the shivers across Barisan Nasional.
Ask any seasonned politicians and they will know that if they announce the Sept 16 list, whether or not they become the Govt now, Barisan Nasional will collapse due to disunity.
I think I need not show you Thailand where Abhisit announced the crossovers before the Parliament began?
That country has a higher risk of threats, bribes and kidnaps than Malaysia.
It is all just excuses if you ask me.
And it is clearly a conspiracy of a very high level.
They tell people Arumugam is missing and he was suspected to be kidnapped because no one from PR could reach him a week or two before he resigned.
Yet, two days before he resigned, he was seen leaving his house with his family by neighbours.
PR goes around telling that BN has a hand in Arumugam's disappearance.
But why didn't PR go around to tell people that it was Kedah PKR who hid him?
A conspiracy of the highest level.
Do you expect to have proof if YOU (just imagine) receive malicious calls sometimes, or bundled into a vehicle and released a few days later? It will be perfect irony if you go to the police and they ask "You have any proof?"
Even this guy doesn't have any proof:
http://www.c2o.org/malaysia/democracy/reports/981203_stat_dec_munawar_01.htm
All he could do was to make a statutory declaration. But does that mean that it didn't happen?
Totally unrelated - I'd like to introduce 2 websites that I really enjoy:
http://thegazerofnavels.blogspot.com
http://art-harun.blogspot.com/
Some of the postings are really quirky and nice! :)
Whatever proof there is, people will still say it is fabricated and BN had a hand.
I think many people did not read the judgement of Anwar Ibrahim. He was released not because he was innocent.
He was convicted of
1. abuse of power
2. corruption
3. sodomy
The third charge was quashed because of the inconsistency of time provided by the prosecution.
However, the judges noted there were sufficient evidence that Anwar Ibrahim was involved with homosexual activities.
Statutory declarations are something which you can get for RM5 at lawyer offices.
I remember there was once a Statutory Declaration which says Najib practices Hindu rites.
Statutory Declarations after Statutory Declarations.
Yet, those who made the SDs cannot be brought to Court.
It is like me going to a lawyer's office and claim that Anwar Ibrahim murdered Altantuya to frame Najib.
Will you believe my SD?
No you wont. Because you will only believe what Anwar says, and believe all allegations against Barisan Nasional.
This is what Malaysians have become.
Does bullets-in-the-mail qualify as proof of being threatened?
Yes. The bullets in the mail qualify as proof of being threatened.
We are still uncertain who sent the bullets.
There are many possibilities. It could be from a fanatical BN member. It could be someone from PR to make it look like a BN job.It could be from an unknown rakyat neither from BN or PR.
The police must investigate and get to the bottom of it.
From here, I hold firm to believe that this is not from a Barisan Nasional leader.
No one in the BN leadership will be so stupid to send or ask anyone to send the bullets.
But let me ascertain one thing. Malaysia has never seen anyone dead before due to political struggles.
The bullet thing must be investigated as soon as possible and the culprit must be charged in Court.
I bet that the police will not get to the bottom of it. Lets give them 6 months and we shall review what they have done.
I beg to differ on your comment "No one in the BN leadership will be so stupid to send or ask anyone to send the bullets." If they (including the BN soon-to-be-ultimate-leader, mind you) are stupid enough to announce to the world that they'll bathe the keris in Chinese blood, such hideous mailing of bullets is child's play in comparison. I have no reason to remove the possibility that they instigated or ordered it.
Proof of bribery?
http://tsalak.blogspot.com/2009/01/kt-bye-election-conduits-of-corruption.html
Nah I don't think so... Maybe it was from someone from PR to make it look like a BN job. The police must investigate and get to the bottom of it! They haven't... but I believe... soon
...if someone received "kapak kecik", is it from a Kelantanese ?
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