tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29507030.post8170010915710097563..comments2023-12-25T20:53:59.459+08:00Comments on A Piece of My Mind: Inilah Ketuanan Pakatan Rakyat - 1Goh Wei Lianghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00183472011202771675noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29507030.post-54237334423914605862009-03-10T21:52:00.000+08:002009-03-10T21:52:00.000+08:00The Constitution of Perak. One of its Article is a...The Constitution of Perak. One of its Article is as follow<BR/><BR/>Article XVI(6): "If the Mentri Besar ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the Legislative Assembly, then unless at his request His Royal Highness dissolves the Legislative Assembly, he shall tender the resignation of the Executive Council".<BR/><BR/><BR/>I accept the fact that there is another opinion on this, like yours.<BR/><BR/>But I hope you understand that I interpret the Constitution in another manner too.<BR/><BR/>That is why we have multiple Constitutional experts who have differing views.Goh Wei Lianghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00183472011202771675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29507030.post-89913267094952240102009-03-10T21:26:00.000+08:002009-03-10T21:26:00.000+08:00GWL,No intention to have a protracted debate with ...GWL,<BR/><BR/>No intention to have a protracted debate with you on this one but<BR/><BR/>1) Having 28 BN and 3 Independents (lets not go into their status here) in front of the Sultan does not constitute a vote of no confidence.<BR/><BR/>2) A vote of no confidence requires a motion to be lodged with the Speaker of the Assembly and the Speaker then deciding whether to accept or reject the motion (this was done in parliament last year but motion was rejected)<BR/><BR/>3) The Sultan is not the Speaker.<BR/><BR/>4) If motion is accepted, voting is carried out with all eligible members of assembly voting.<BR/><BR/>5) Assembly need not be held in the Dewan Negeri (as demonstrated by the Meeting under the tree) and need not have all members present (just as how BN members chose to boycott the Meeting under the tree)<BR/><BR/>6) Once votes are tallied, the vote of no confidence is passed/rejected.<BR/><BR/>In summary, you can't have a motion of no confidence based on rules you make up along the way (ie. who attends, who decides etc.). I am sure you would agree that there are specific rules which need to be adhered to. Afterall, there is a reason why the Speaker runs the Assembly. Things have to be orderly.<BR/><BR/>Having a vote of no confidence as you described above which is not called by the Speaker is by no stretch of the imagination a vote.<BR/><BR/>Now as I said, BN got too excited and in the process, instead of check mating PR, are now in a position of stalemate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29507030.post-66226786186585653962009-03-10T19:07:00.000+08:002009-03-10T19:07:00.000+08:00Eillom I think you got yourself mixed up.No where ...Eillom I think you got yourself mixed up.<BR/><BR/>No where in the Perak Constitution does it say that there should be a vote of no confidence IN THE STATE ASSEMBLY.<BR/><BR/>Actually a vote of no confidence was carried out in front of Sultan Azlan Shah.<BR/><BR/>28 BN MPs together with 3 Independent MPs informed their decisions that Nizar has lost their confidence and they are not lending their support to BN to form a new Government.<BR/><BR/>That happened on 6th February 2009 at the Palace in Perak.<BR/><BR/>If I am not mistaken, it was Istana Kinta.<BR/><BR/>Whether or not a vote of no confidence is necessary in the State Assembly or Palace, it is just a matter of location.<BR/><BR/>If we can pass motions under a tree, why not in the Palace?Goh Wei Lianghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00183472011202771675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29507030.post-37141005165602851402009-03-10T18:45:00.000+08:002009-03-10T18:45:00.000+08:00No point copying what JMD writes. What is in conte...No point copying what JMD writes. What is in contention in Perak is the Sultan's ability to dismiss the MB. Not the Sultan's authority to appoint an MB.<BR/><BR/>The Sultan appointed Zambry but Nizar needs to resign beforehand. Only way to remove Nizar would be a vote of no confidence in the state assembly. This step was not taken.<BR/><BR/>Like an amateur playing a game of chess, BN was too hurried. If they had thought it all through, cleared the legal hurdles of the resignation letters etc. and called for a emergency sitting, Nizar could be removed by the BN majority.<BR/><BR/>In their haste, BN shot themselves in their foot and now we have this mess.<BR/><BR/>Call for an election and resolve this once and for all. As Ku Li said, BN is afraid to call for an election as they know the outcome is not likely to be favourable to them.<BR/><BR/>BN started this mess, now they should face up to it. No point you asking Nizar to give up his struggle. It is his legal right to do what he is doing. If you are so concerned, write a letter to Zambry and ask him to agree to snap elections. <BR/><BR/>Otherwise, stop being an apologist for BN. You might be gung ho due to your youth but once you see enough of the BN nonsense going on, your tune will change. Unless you hope to be part of the patronage system of course.<BR/><BR/>eillomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29507030.post-79984382043842108202009-03-09T19:54:00.000+08:002009-03-09T19:54:00.000+08:00good job gwl...RPK last year also did a boo boo by...good job gwl...<BR/><BR/>RPK last year also did a boo boo by writing this article below:<BR/><BR/>http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/8082/84<BR/><BR/>Read it and enjoy...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com